Welcome to My Carbs Phase

2nd low carb dinner followed by a flat line. What what. Book me on Dr. Oz; I now have all the answers.

2nd low carb dinner followed by a flat line. What what. Book me on Dr. Oz; I now have all the answers.

Bullshittery so apparent w. CGM. Correct insulin/carb match not prevent spike for carb-y meal. Maybe ever all D-history. Best hope = not stay high many hours.

Low carb meal—> NO SPIKE. CGM reveal truth. Bigfoot see (twice!) smooth sailing of meat/vegetable dinner. Experience disaster (thrice!) that is oatmeal/maple syrup.

Time for choose:

A. He should be eating exactly as he was before 

or

B. He should be eating meals that do not reliably cause a spike

Because:

A. Relax! A spike isn’t so bad as long as he comes down quickly

or

B. Secretly freak out! A spike hurts him in the short term (moody, confused) and the long term (eyes, toes, heart, yaddayadda.)

And:

A. Let him be a kid! He has enough to deal with; he shouldn’t have to feel different because of what he’s eating. Besides, kids need carbs.

or

B. He is already wearing medical devices imbedded in his skin and not eating anything without an adult analyzing its carb content. Nothing about this is normal! Eating Twizzlers is never going to be normal! I don’t even like Twizzlers!**

Lock up your granolas

Lock up your granolas

Bigfoot answer: B, B and B.  It’s the carbs, stupid. Problem not just famous spiky foods (pizza, Cheerios). Problem any beau coup carbs. Even tra la la wholesome homemade organic granola w. whisper maple syrup + almond milk tra la la. Some level Bigfoot always know this. But only sink in today.

Sink-in courtesy Dexcom G4 + more reasoned, less rant-y Ranting T1 Mom recent food post. Love Dolores idea re-make entire family a la Whole30 even though currently impossible Bigfoot imagine household sans peanut butter, beer, graham crackers, yogurt, marmalade, Cadbury Mini-egg.

Sure, once teen Bubs arrive/drive car/college/buy house/marry Twizzler-eater, Bigfoot not so able control food. But for now Bigfoot control! Bigfoot control shit out of! Grrrrrr.

**Bigfoot Spouse like Sno-caps. Taste armpit, texture plantar wart.

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33 responses to “Welcome to My Carbs Phase

  1. I’m so glad you linked that old post. I wasn’t reading back then and it was so funny it made me actually laugh out loud (not to be confused with fake Lol) about the Franco/chuckie.

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  2. Mary M

    So many diabetics seem to end with a complicated relationship to food.and we have celiac on top. I -know- what carbs do, I limit them in my meal planning (pasta once a week, not every day), but I can’t take them away altogether. Sigh. I sincerely hope thatgrowing up in a house with intelligent food options helps with those issues in the future.

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    • With celiac, does *having to* avoid so much ambient carb crap (school cupcakes, restaurant dinner rolls, unspecialized oats, etc.) and having to choose foods SO, SO intentionally make it easier to eat low carb? Not that I want celiac. I know nothing about it is easy or fun.

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      • Mary M

        Yes and no, if that makes sense?
        For myself, it used to be that if I wanted a treat I would buy a cupcake or a muffin. Now I have to make it. And I end up with 12 cupcakes instead of just one. I freeze them, but I always end up eating more than if I had just stopped off and gotten a treat. (That’s the yes and no paragraph)
        And for the kid, it is important for me that he doesn’t feel limited. So when he wants cookies, I make cookies (or pizza or clam linguini or whatever it is that day).
        Overall I think diabetes influences our family carb intake more than celiac does.

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  3. Wow! Go BF!!!!! Maybe just an occasional mini egg
    …but personally can’t wait for the W30 recipes you come up with!!!

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    • From watching Bri’s photo album, I think the recipe will be: boiled egg with cucumber. I can’t imaging doing it—maybe you sort of have to eat meat. You can’t have NUTS! But I need to do some kind of sugar therapy on myself.

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  4. For us some of the “healthier” foods like oatmeal cause a huge spike, but the Toaster Strudel doesn’t. When I questioned the endo about this she suggested that it has to do with fat or protein. Those two low carb meals you served had meat (protein + fat).

    I successfully bolused 110 carbs at Steak ‘N Shake recently with NO spike!

    When I was reading Scheiner’s Until There is a Cure recently, he said that a child my daughter’s age can have an acceptable post prandial spike up to 225.

    I think the key is moderation between having super low carb meals like that, but also enjoying life and allowing acceptable spikes.

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    • I remember your toaster streudel post! I didn’t really get it at the time—why it was so noteworthy. Now–I mean–I’m sure I’ll stop being shocked soon–TOASTER STREUDEL over OATMEAL?! Intellectually I agree that moderation is the key, and I won’t be able to keep up this level of insane scrutiny for much longer anyway.

      225 seems like a much more reasonable goal. I read that book, but, as usual, didn’t absorb many actual facts.

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  5. Cheers to you, my movie-theater-snacking-doppleganger! (Seriously, raisinettes are heaven to me)

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  6. It’s funny, because over the years I’ve kind of figured out which random foods are extra spiky and which ones aren’t. And I don’t always avoid the spiky ones; it just depends on how much bullshit I feel I can handle after a meal. Sometimes it’s worth it, and sometimes I’d rather just eat something that’s not too spiky.

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    • Before this CGM, it was more a matter of “is letting him eat this crappy party food worth staying up all night correcting?” Answer: almost always YES. Because I am so, so giving and loving and self-sacrificing. But if the question is “is this party food worth exposing his eyes, toes, etc. to battery acid?” then the answer will be NO FOREVER. Sorry so extreme. I just read that e-book wherein high glucose blood is referred to as battery acid.

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      • Gah! Which book is this? I once heard Dr. Oz compare it to shards of glass in your blood stream, but it was Dr. Oz, so I was like, “Whatever, Dr. Oz.”

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      • mmm. love to hate dr. oz! I don’t know why really, but I can tell all of the world’s very best T1s think he’s a d-bag. when I see him grinning from the cover of women’s world weekly at the check-out line I feel all “ha ha. you’re on a bad magazine and all of the cool people think you’re a disaster!”

        the book is BEYOND FINGERSTICKS, a very helpful, readable, funny, extremely pro-CGM guide to CGM use.

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      • I have a hard time knowing what to say when I read (and at times, preach) the “people with Type 1 can eat anything” type of advocacy. In a way it’s true, but it’s still not always smart. Rather than focus on the the word ANYTHING, I try to shift the emphasis on CAN.

        Yes, Bubs CAN eat a pound of Twizzlers and three solid chocolate Easter bunnies… IF he can get the right bolus delivered at the right time, and work it all out so that the insulin hits the bloodstream at precisely the moment that the sugar hits it, effectively having one cancel out the other. Good luck with that. It’s possible in theory, but probably not in practice.

        SHOULD he do it? Unless he (or you) has mastered the art, science, and complete randomness of what happens when you mix all this crap together, it’s probably not a good idea.

        There’s a reason that people with diabetes tend to gravitate towards Diet Coke over regular Coke, Splenda over sugar, Crystal-Lite instead of lemonade, and disappointing plates of nothingness over delicious cheesecake. It makes the blood sugars much easier to control.

        Following that logic, Bubs can eat nothing and not have any spikes at all, right? I suppose so, but he’d probably also starve. That’s where the whole moderation thing comes in. He still needs energy to grow and to make it through the day, and putting him on a low-carb diet might not help that. Hell, I’m full-grown, and I eat 65 carb lunches regularly. (65 is generally my max). I asked my current and previous endos about low-carb diets, and both looked at me strangely and asked “why?!?” I’m not overweight, so I don’t have any need to lower my food intake.

        So rather than avoiding carbs, I’d suggest minimizing “empty carbs” (the ones where the “sugars” on the label nearly equals the “total carbs”). And with the other ones, you might find it easier to figure out how to handle it if you introduce the foods one at a time. Instead of stacking pizza on top of birthday cake on top of lots of exercise, just see how the pizza works (if you can figure that out, you’re well on your way to success! It’s one of the hardest foods to figure out.)

        Maybe Bubs may feel deprived when he declines the Twizzlers, but don’t starve the kid.

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  7. Great post. Such a tricky balance, isn’t it?

    I’ll be the first to admit that my relationship with food is all jacked up. I eat a lot of carbs, but it makes my diabetes (and weight) management so much harder!

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    • What makes the carbiness worth it? (Asked after eating M&Ms all night trying to squelch garlic breath, in lieu of tooth-brushing.) (And then feeling hit-by-a-truck.) (And then considered M&Ms for breakfast.) I guess you have reached a level of D-accomplishment where you care about your whole life, and not just a dotted line on a tiny, glossy screen.

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      • I think it’s a combination of old habits and emotional eating. And as far as the d-accomplishment goes, I feel like I’m trying to figure out each day as it comes, just like you guys. That’s the funny thing about diabetes. You can’t (or at least I can’t) reach a goal or routine, then set things on autopilot. It’s a reactive thing, almost all of the time.

        Probably not what you wanted to hear, eh? Where are my carbs…

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  8. I will continue to say this (so just ignore me), but I “saw the light” this past year and finally started eating lower carb and my BG have never been better. Are they perfect? Absolutely not, but I rarely see anything above 250 now. I get so annoyed with people who say “I can eat whatever I want”. Sure, you can, but what are the consequences of that choice? If you want to be chasing highs all day long, knock yourself out. I have never met a restauant dinner roll I wanted to eat that badly. To each their own.

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    • “If you want to be chasing highs all day long, knock yourself out.” RIGHT! Right, Katie. That’s what I meant to say. I am glad to know you. And you’re doing it FOR YOU! Not inflicting it on your child. Wow and yay for people who treat *themselves* with loving care.

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  9. Linda

    Some of us take longer than others to get this. I think you may have just won a gold medal with your ‘under 2 years’. Took me more than 30, but you are so right, “It’s the CARBS, stupid”. ie. “Aim small, miss small.” And I totally agree with your Dr. rage. Plus I finally get where “Dr. Donut” comes from! Mine was “Doc Sundae”. Such a set up for struggle and failure!

    But your Bubs seems truly concerned about doing what’s best for his diabetes – Makes me think he might even prefer a proteiny/fatty/veggier diet if it gave him (and you) more cubic hours of undisturbed territory to inhabit. One thing that helped me A LOT with lower carbing was a move towards actually growing veggies and keeping chickens… W30 sounds a tiny bit cultish to me. But you do lose your craving, if not your taste, for sweets after two weeks cold turkey. For real.

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    • I’m going to piggy back on Linda’s comment regarding losing the cravings. I also noticed that after eating lower carb for a few months I can no longer physically eat as much as I used to without feeling super full and uncomfortable. I used to eat so much bread and pasta in a given week, now I don’t even desire that much food. My general approach is smaller, but more frequent meals. So, for lunch I might only have a low carb wrap and that’s it (12 carbs), but then 2-3 hours I will eat fruit or something. Rather than bolus for 30+ carbs at lunch it’s more 10-15c here and 10-15c there.

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      • I like your meal plan—-but it sounds incredibly difficult!

        Today I ate egg salad rolled in romaine leaves (instead of pita bread) for my lunch. By 2:00 I was dipping into the granola jar over and over and over. I’m sure I have a sugar problem. I would like to desire carbs less. I love toast more than I love most puppies.

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    • Other than the Whole30 cult…how about Engine2? Any opinions on that? I think E2 would be better (i.e. easier) for me because I do not like meat. I should just choose something and try it. I would love to quit sweets cold turkey and see what happens.

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  10. this is such a great great great post. thank you.

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  11. I can honestly say that HARDEST thing for me to let go of was bagels. I LOVE bagels, on a nearly line crossing/obsessive kind of way. I could live on bagels (if I wanted to never have an acceptable glucose again) and eating eating the “wanna-be bagel” thins is more like punishment than a happy medium. I have learned that unless they are fresh, glorious, locally made bagels they aren’t worth the aftermath. (I often compare the carb overload aftermath to a hangover) Occasionally, they are and I go for it- though I try to eat half and save the other half for later, it doesn’t always work that way though…

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